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Poster: jds121291 Date: Mar 21, 2011 9:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Brokedown Palace

man thats a good tune. which versions make the list as best ever? 8/6/71 is great, not surprisingly. suggestions?

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 22, 2011 9:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

A song that does not work for me until the '80's. The 70's versions border on unlistenable.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1990-03-19.mtx.hansokolow.97024.flac16

There are better, but this comes to mind.

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Poster: jds121291 Date: Mar 22, 2011 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

the 80's border on unlistenable with me

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 22, 2011 10:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

It's a funny thing that. It's a good thing.
I think some songs are better the last 15 years, and vice versa (very heavily tilted in this direction). Some of the former include,
B.P., Deal, CR&S, Iko Iko, Sugaree*, Terrapin, Wheel

Loser, Row Jimmy, BEW are a push.

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Poster: utopian Date: Mar 22, 2011 11:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

a push to which direction?

I agree that some songs sound better imho in one period vs the next. I only saw a few shows in the last few years, but sometimes found the slower songs totally jammed out, covering some interesting new ground. especially songs like candyman, wharf, etc sounded much bigger than they did in the previous eras.

So a Question arises for those who have traveled all the different eras.......From the catalog songs that were played in several eras or
multiple time periods (aka songs that were carried in the setlist over several different decades), which songs sounded better when?

for me

pre 75
st stephen
gdtrfb
nfa
Uncle
big river
el paso
other one
HC Sunshine
dark star

post 75
cassidy
bertha
franklins tower
scarlet fire
row jimmy
peggy o
1/2 step
sugaree

early 80's
minglewood
BE women
help slip
loser
stella
CR&S

87 on to 91

Crazy fingers
playin
china rider
deal

91To the end (not so familiar) but I saw decent versions of
Wharf
Candyman



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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 22, 2011 12:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

The first fifteen years. I could not have written a more confusing sentence.

Some songs just didn't have the emotional weight early on; Black Peter, BEW, and yes, I'll agree with you on WRat.
Half Step was better later. But nothing beats Playin from '72-'74.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 22, 2011 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

"I could not have written a more confusing sentence."

Oh you're just too modest.


:-)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 22, 2011 1:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

I'm sure to you ,Ring and AR it's just downright ugly sometimes. My punctuation is getting better. Oh, but I try.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 22, 2011 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

I had actually noticed your punctuation has gotten better :) wondered why, or if I had just gotten used to it ...

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Poster: fourempties Date: Mar 22, 2011 3:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

Latter years:
They Love Each Other- slow is better than fast.
Loose Lucy
Wave That Flag/US Blues- the early years were ridiculously terrrible.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Mar 22, 2011 3:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

The level of ignorance to the quality of Grateful Dead music in this and a few other recent threads is astounding.Some quotes and opinions,"anything lacking in vocals and playing was certainly made up for in setlists","some songs just didn't have the emotional weight early on".Then the notion that the 1987-1995 versions of Playin',Wharf Rat,China/Rider,were superior to their predecessors,and one last genius told us that the later day version of Loose Lucy was better and that the earlier version of U.S. Blues "ridiculously terrible",he did not enlighten us on just when the gotta go/see ya' later encore version achieved its clear cut superiority.I wonder if this happens on a Rolling Stones forum,where some guy jumps in and says how much better the 1990-2010 version of the band is than those weak sloppy drugged out shows from 68'-75'.

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Poster: fourempties Date: Mar 22, 2011 4:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace....the same songs sounded better from generation vs generation

Your opinion is of zero value. Do not respond to any more posts. No one cares. You are cluttering the forum with words of no worth. Stop it.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Mar 22, 2011 11:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

All the songs from the first 15 years are better than all the songs from the last 15 years, and vice versa.

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Poster: utopian Date: Mar 22, 2011 9:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

Try 5-18-77

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Mar 22, 2011 10:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokeback Mountain

(titus prime)

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Poster: wineland Date: Mar 22, 2011 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokeback Mountain

Optimus Prime's brother?

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Mar 22, 2011 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

The Brokedown encore from 12/19/94 will be played at my funeral. As will Days Between from this same show.

You can hear every second of the pain Jerry accumulated over the years in these two songs. Very poignant versions and among the favorite versions of any songs they performed.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd94-12-19.sbd.vernon.20712.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 21, 2011 10:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

It's an unusual one for the mix, in which Phil and Bob come thru, and Jerry is as if via echo box, and there's even a cut, but be sure to give 10-4-70 a listen. Then, 9-20-70 is good as well...hmmm, at least I think I have that date right.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 22, 2011 9:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

I'll gladly endorse Tell's recommendation of 9-20-70. I'd also suggest 12-7-71 as being well worth a listen. The best? I don't know, but there's a bruised magnificence to it that I find uplifting.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd71-12-07.sbd.miller.3375.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: utopian Date: Mar 21, 2011 10:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Brokedown Palace

9-24-83